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Q. To what extent should the involvement of state in
the management of the economy go?
The factors of production like land, capital,
labour, and entrepreneurship are all sources of
wealth. These will be controlled by the private
sector.
In a country where the major source of capital -
which is land - is controlled by the government,
farmers consider themselves as employees of the
state. Not only does the government control the
land, now it even controls what crops are harvested
and where they are supposed to be collected.
The major player in both sectors, owning the land
and the crops on the land, is the government. The
ruling party has its own trade conglomerates that
control the fertilizer of the land and the farmer
plays no role becoming a political instrument for
the ruling party.
The farmers are insecure because the ruling party
can repossess their plot of land at any time should
the party suspect that the farmer has no allegiance
to the said party. So it is a political game being
played by the ruling party.
If MEDREK gets an opportunity to form a government
after the coming election, the ownership of land
will definitely belong to those who till the land
and the government would not be a major player in
the market but the private sector.
This ruling party has businesses in nail
manufacturing, flower farms, including small
enterprises that should be owned and operated by the
private sector. It is very difficult to say there is
a free market economy in Ethiopia. In a country
where the major employer and the market player is
the government, there is no free market economy.
That is what Revolutionary Democracy is all
about-one dominant party in politics and in the
economy.
The government needs to play its natural role in
terms of defence, foreign affairs and, what we call
in business, natural monopolies. For instance, in
the energy sector there may not be enough investors
in this area who can participate, since it is very
capital intensive. That sector probably can be
played by the government.
But MEDREK is going to change that, if we get an
opportunity to form a government, the private sector
should be given full authority to manage the
economy. We would hand over companies that are owned
by the ruling party to the public through auction.
The market would be based on demand, supply and
price. Consumption and distribution would be
dictated by the needs and wants of the consumer, not
the ruling party.
Interventions by the ruling party have shown, time
and again, that it failed, exposing people at the
lower level of society to extreme hardship. You can
take the example of sugar. Their action are
distorting the competitive nature of the economy.
Q. Where would the significant involvement of a
government in MEDREK be?
Small government is good government. The government
should have a very small role in the free market
activity of the economy. MEDREK will restrain its
role in the market but that does not mean that we
are not going to intervene when and if it is
necessary.
Q. When is that?
When there are factors that could destabilise the
society, we will intervene to bring back the market
and the social well-being of the society to a normal
state. MEDREK would set into place a regulatory
framework that would make the competitive nature of
markets free for everybody to play in.
If conditions arise where few sellers are in a
monopoly or oligopoly, they control prices and
products in such a way as to affect the majority of
the people.
It would be incumbent upon the ruling party, MEDREK,
if we get a chance to form a government, to
intervene and stabilise the market because society
is being affected not by normal interactions of
market give and take but by the monopolistic stake
of a few sellers. So in that condition, it would be
reasonable and responsible for any ruling party to
intervene and stabilise the market.
Q. How would MEDREK intend to use the fiscal and
monetary instruments of the economy?
Both monetary and fiscal policies should not be
controlled by one branch of the government, which is
EPRDF’s case is the executive branch.
In other countries, for example, if you take the
Federal Reserve of the United States, not only are
they neutral and independent, but they are also
elected for a term of office that outlasts both the
legislature and executive branch of government. They
intentionally designed the system in such a way that
both the legislature and executive branches would
not be able to influence the monetary supply of the
country.
Here, however, the Central Bank of Ethiopia is
totally under the control of the ruling party; and
at times when they have to raise the money supply –
they do not. At times when they have to reduce
interest rates – they do not. At times when they
have to raise the reserve requirements of banks –
they do not for political reasons.
We are in an inflationary period; we have been in
inflation at least for the last two years. So,
people are suffering because the ruling party has a
large appetite for money. So, there are too few
goods because there is too much money in the
economy. So, during times like these, responsible
governments do take bitter pills.
What is a bitter pill? It is a restraint - an
austerity programme, or a belt tightening programme
by the government to contain inflation. But this
ruling party is not interested in doing that because
they want to use this as a political message and be
seen as having a growing economy.
But the economy is growing at a severe cost paid by
the consumers. Too much money is being poured into
the economy - more than the economy of the country
can handle. So we have stated again and again that
interest rates have to be raised as any responsible
government would do at times such as this. A
responsible government would raise interest rates,
cut government spending, raise bank reserve
requirements and try to create productivity within
the market.
Fiscal policy is used by the government in raising
and reducing taxes, increasing the tax base and
increasing or reducing the tax rates. Whatever
measures are taken to bring about and sustain a
healthy economy is done by the executive branch
using fiscal policy.
But the ruling party is now saying that they have
done both, without using any of these tools; that is
impossible. Therefore, the economy is not being
managed; it is being mismanaged. And people are
being victimised due to this continued claim of GDP
growth because the ruling party wants to tell the
people, for political purposes, that for the last
seven years the GDP has been growing. They have
rejected both of these instruments and have
refrained from using them for political reasons. I
would say that is irresponsible.
Q.You do not think that there is an economic growth?
Economic growth at what cost? That is what I am
trying to say.
There is an economic growth if you are talking about
GDP. It is like over eating; it is not useful at a
certain level. After some point, the law of
diminishing returns takes hold. Now I am saying that
instead of healthy growth this is hurting a lot of
people. The society is paying the price in terms of
inflation and unemployment.
You can take this as you want, there is growth in
the construction sector. It is obvious and everybody
can see it. There is too much money in the economy –
this is a fact. There are too few products – it is a
fact. But society is paying a price; those who earn
fixed incomes from government salaries are paying a
price because there are no products that they can
afford to buy.
There are retirees with fixed income. There are
government employees who live on a certain amount of
money every month. They can neither send their
children to school nor can they buy their groceries
because there is too much money in the economy.
Things have gone out of control and the state of the
economy is not healthy. It is inflationary and that
is what spread unemployment. This is like a family
who is over-spending its income, thinking to borrow
some more for the next month and live that month –
but they are accumulating debt.
Ethiopia is a net debtor nation meaning the economy
is being financed by somebody else. This is bad. The
economy should be financed by home grown growth.
This money that we are spending has come mostly on
loan, grant or aid. It is very superficial. It is
not sustainable.
What we call growth and balanced growth is when the
society has savings in the bank and the bank loans
this money out to productive sectors. The Ethiopian
population’s savings is significantly low. How could
they save when they do not even have money to
sustain themselves and their livelihood for the
month? It is very difficult to say they will save
money; for what interest, for what gain?
The interest rates the banks are paying is so low
that nobody will be interested in saving their
money.
At four per cent interest rate during this
inflationary time, the economy is mismanaged and I
do not think the ruling party really understands the
intricacy of a modern day economy and what monetary
and fiscal economy means. I do not think the
incumbent has an understanding of the significance
of these instruments.
Q. What sort of reform should be done?
Just do the reverse of what Ethiopian Revolutionary
Democratic Front (EPRDF) is doing. If we can do
that, I am sure we will advance the economy to a
healthy economy. We do not want to lead the people
to believe that the economy is growing when the
economy is not home grown.
We want people to have a culture of saving making
sure interest rates are competitive. Products should
be bought at a price supported by demand and supply.
Interest rates should be negotiated between banks,
borrowers and lenders. This freedom should be given
to the private sector.
In the economy, the major player should not be just
few monopolistic organisations. It should be wide
and accessible enough to the private sector.
Currently, the major player is the ruling party. It
is the supplier and it is the buyer in every aspect.
If you take the grain, coffee market, and all
agriculture products, the government has a warehouse
where these products are being produced. The
government is the buyer and seller. They are fixing
the price. When the price is fixed there is no free
market. They are buying the farmers’ products
according to prices they themselves have set and
taking the products to government warehouses. There
is no interaction between the buyer and seller.
Market economy is based on a free signal from the
market to the producers. Therefore, market signals
should not be blunted by the involvement of the
government. When we say we are a free market
economy, the market signals should clearly, without
any distortion in between, be transmitted to the
producers so that one can engage in production based
on market supply and demand. They can choose areas
which are productive for them. These signals should
not come on instruction from the central government
but should be an inter-play between buyers and
sellers.
Q. Do you see structural changes in the economy of
the country?
I do not see any change. The nature of this ruling
party whether in politics or economy is a command
economy and a totalitarian. Because what the ruling
party says everybody does. There is no other way of
doing things. Even if by some accident the ruling
party continues after May 2010, I do not assume any
structural changes in the economic policy of the
incumbent. Because they have already stated time and
again every economic activity is going to be done
from the centre. Market economy is just a way of
getting a loan and credits from the western
countries.
Q. What does MEDREK propose?
Well I am not going to propose anything for EPRDF.
What I propose is for the electorate to vote for
MEDREK in 2010 and there will be major changes in a
sense that there will be stability in the economy
and politics. People would be the major players of
the economy and politics at the grassroots level.
There will be total freedom in the market interplay.
MEDREK’s responsibility would be to regulate and to
bring about laws and regulations that will benefit
the whole society and whole sectors of the
population and economy, not a sector or group. Both
the economy and politics would be totally in the
hand of the population.
This country and its sovereignty belong to the
people. The people dictate how things should be run
in every intersection in the society. There will be
many thousands of civil society interest groups in
this country if MEDREK is elected. Every one of them
will be taken into account. The interests of the
people through their representatives will be
reflected both in the economy and politics.
Q. How do you see the contribution of the various
sectors to the GDP?
Special emphasis will be given for the resourses of
each sector. Those sectors will be brought out to
benefit the community of the area which the natural
resource is found. Intervention and control by the
government will be minimised. The creativity and
entrepreneurship skill of the people would be
encouraged. This will be a participatory government.
We would encourage initiative and encourage the
dynamics of individuals and groups to initiate
business ideas. That is where the change will come
from. We are going to bring out the initiative of
people to play in the free market economy.
Q. Is a macroeconomic policy where there is a rapid
economic growth while maintaining low inflation rate
sustainable?
Yes it is doable, but it will be very difficult to
do that without using monetary policy. But the way
around it is to have the economy perform
productively and make some economic productivity
gains. Otherwise it will be very difficult.
Inflation, deflation and recession are economic
cycles in free market economies. Sometimes it will
be important for the government to cut spending. But
no government wants to cut spending because of
political reasons. But genuine governments should
explain what is to be done.
When the economy overheats, there are reasonable
fiscal and monetary tools that are conventionally
used by all governments in economic theory except in
communist or socialist states. At least one or the
other of fiscal or monitory policy must be used or
both of them have to be used.
What EPRDF claims to have achieved, growth without
using these two has never been done. It must be a
new discovery and that was why I brought the
question up in Parliament for discussion.
Q. What will MEDREK do to address the inflation
issue?
MEDREK will open up the market to participatory
play, provide information to the producer, buyer and
supplier and also the consumer. So in a free market
economy, price always gravitates towards equilibrium
– if not exactly then in close proximity.
There will be a true reflection of market and
supply. The invisible hand should operate, not the
government. But there should be times where the
government intervenes in market for reasons of
stability, and to protect the interest of the
masses. But in major cases the invisible hand
operates. MEDREK will remove all the barriers this
government has put in place.
Q. How about balance of payment crisis and the trade
deficit?
We are buying more than we are selling. We are
importing from abroad more than we are exporting.
Our appetite for imported goods has increased. We
are importing not only capital goods, we are also
importing consumable goods like ketchup, tomato
sauce. How difficult is it to produce tomato sauce?
So, very little import substitution is done to save
foreign exchange.
One of the things that we would be focusing on is
import substitution. Domestic investors have to be
encouraged to produce goods and services that can
help us from importing in hard currency.
Q. Would subsidising the local producers not be in
conflict with a liberal government ideology?
No, because it is a temporary subsidy. Things have
to be valued in terms of the benefit they bring out
to the country and the people. If we can subsidise a
home grown investor by giving free land and tax
holidays, it will cause the business sector to
engage in home grown services and products. So, in
the long run, the benefit to the people and the
government by saving foreign exchange would be
tremendous.
Q. How about managing the depreciation of the Birr
and the exchange rate regime when trying to
encourage export competitiveness of the country?
We have to export more and not depend on few
agricultural items. The amount and the quality and
the volume of the agricultural product that we are
exporting should be changed significantly.
In other sectors like human resource development and
tourism, we will make trade participatory in items
of export.
And the exchange rate regime should not be dictated
by a ruling party, it should be dictated by the
market. Money is bought and sold like products are
bought and sold in the rest of the world. Ethiopia
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